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ISBN: 8497597486
ISBN 13: 9788497597487
By: Frank Herbert

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More than three thousand years have passed since the first events recorded in Dune. Only one link survives with those tumultuous times: the grotesque figure of Leto Atreides, son of the prophet Paul Muad'Dib, now the virtually immortal God Emperor of Dune. He alone understands the future, & he knows with a terrible certainty that the evolution of his race is at an end unless he can breed new qualities into his species. But to achieve his final victory, Leto Atreides must also bring about his own downfall.

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Irving Karchmar

I think that God Emperor Leto II, the man who turned himself into a giant sandworm in order to save humanity, and thereby lived for 3500 years, is my favorite character in fiction, science or otherwise. Of course, a being with that long a life, and with "other memories" going back through the entire history of mankind to the first stirrings of cellular awareness, is a remarkable achievement. His insights are lucid and insightful, and one I remember, about all armies being rape armies, is especially poignant today in the light of all the rape and abuse charges in the US Military. Truly a remarkable part of the best series in sci-fi.

Michelle

I LOVE THIS BOOK!!! Leto is my absolute favorite character of the series ! Without giving it away, Leto has acquired a half-humanoid half-sandworm form and the book begins over 3,000 years after Children of Dune, with Leto ruling the entire "known" universe. Leto has acquired tremendous God-like power through the course of his metamorphosis from human to worm. Despite such incredible prescient powers, Leto suffers from some of the same foibles as all humans do, (loneliness, boredom) perhaps even exacerbated by his near immortality. We learn a little more about the Golden Path in this book and can not help but feel sorry for the eternally resurrected Duncan Idaho. A must read if you are a Dune fan.

Jed L

Once again I will make the same critique that I made for the two books that followed the original Dune: for a book set on a foreign planet full of interesting settings, cultures and people far too much of the book is spent sitting in boring council meetings, assemblies and receiving rooms. I loved the first Dune. I loved it because it had complex characters with complex motivations running around doing fantastic things in a setting that was beyond my imagination. New creatures, new sights and sounds and foods and language all of it with characters that were amazing to read about and deep with insight and intelligence. This book, along with the second and third Dune books, keeps the interesting characters. But instead of having them do much of anything, they instead just talk endlessly to each other. This book was a little bit better than the previous two (far better than the second) as there was more action and more exploration of the newly created planet, but not enough. There were no major journeys. No treks. Very little fighting. Instead just endless dialouge and thoughts. I can take a little of that, even a moderate amount. But when talking and thinking becomes the focal point of a book it no longer becomes an adventure. It becomes philosophy. It becomes a tome. There is a place for philosophy and the first Dune encompassed that place perfectly. But these later books are too weighed down. I am going to continue to be hopeful for the fifth and sixth book, but at this point I think Herbert caught himself in a rut and will write himself out on a philosophy high instead of writing his characters into new and exciting planes of exploration and adventure.

Carlos Lavín

Dune was the first book I ever bought with my own money. I read it when I was somewhere around 14 or 15 and was simply astonished by Herbert's ability to create this whole new universe with its new sets of religions (basically what every great sci-fi writer (I'm looking at you, Dan Simmons) excels in doing) and the planetary-ecological issues.I learned to love that book, and to this day keep on getting excited by the pure greatness of it when I remember scenes such as the time Paul is tested by that old Reverend Mother (Mosheim?), the moment when the Duke died trying to kill the Baron or when Paul finally takes down the shield wall and waltzes himself into the throne room occupied by that Corrino emperor (I forget how to spell his name). The litany against fear is worth the entire reading of the book. Even the closing lines, with Jessica talking to Chani about their roles, that book was majestically written.That being said, I didn't like God Emperor, just as I did not like Children. Dune Messiah I thought was a decent sequel to the amazingness that was the first book. To me, the series basically jumped the shark when Leto II dressed himself in the sand trout Venom-like symbiote suit.Every single review that's been written about this book touches the fact that the plot was nearly inexistant, so I won't elaborate much on that. If we take out that 20% (I'm being extremely generous today) that the plot actually represented in the book, we're left with rants of Leto II and Moneo explaining the Golden Path and how it is completely necessary to save humanity. And a couple observations/lessons on the complexities found in the fine art of keeping people under control (ruling them), at times even feeling like Herbert was trying to pull a modern The Prince on us.That, by itself, doesn't sound as such a crappy deal for a story. It could be a slow one, but at least an interesting one. Explaining the view Herbert had on the vices that exist between humans organized as a society and what exactly it would take to get rid of them. And, to pack the extra punch, we'd have the tormented soul of a 3500~ year old being, who has had to do unspeakable things to make sure humanity reaches this "golden" stage of "freedom".Hell, to me that would sound like quite a decent and interesting book. Herbert was on to something trying to turn the Dune series into this direction (haven't read Heretics nor Chapterhouse yet, I most likely will, out of respect for the first book, but I'm not expecting much).The whole tragedy in this was the execution of the book. The actual result was a series of circle-going repetitive rants, going over and over into how much Leto II suffers and how stagnation is the worst of sickness that could infect humankind and how the sacrifice he's been doing these last few millennia by keeping people "prisoners" in the lethargy they find themselves in tries to make sure that they will learn their lesson and never be like that again.100 or 200 pages of that, plus another 100 of actual plot, would have made an excellent book. But 400 pages of that, well, shit just got insanely slow. And also (maybe this is due to my own short comings), I found that some of Leto's "philosophical" rants didn't really have the deep undertone that one would expect to accompany them (with Leto saying things like "Enemies strengthen you, Allies weaken", and the book giving it an aura that implies he is spilling out pearls of wisdom only made accessible by his long life and infinite memories), or sometimes they felt like they weren't relevant in any way to what was going on and were merely thrown out as cheap philosophy.Granted, how on Earth Herbert would've been able to pull off a wise 3500 year old god-like character is something that escapes me, but using such cheap "deep" lines certainly didn't help.(view spoiler)[And again, with people falling in love-ish after 5 seconds of word interchange and a couple hours fucking. I mean, Hwi and Leto falling in love on first sight I guess would be explainable, since she was engineered by the Ixians for that. But Hwi calling Duncan "love" after a night having sex? Seriously?! "Hot thing", "sweet cheeks", "cutie pie", all acceptable. "Love" was idiotic. (hide spoiler)]Think I'll give the Dune series a bit of a couple months rest before I start Heretics (I'm sure as hell staying away from Brian's books, I can tell you that much). I'd also like to revisit this book, I don't know, maybe 5 years from now. Hopefully I will get some deeper meaning out of it than the one I got this time around.But I doubt it.2.5/5, mostly out of respect for the first book.["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>

Daniel

I'm not sure why I keep reading the Dune novels. I don't like them, at least I didn't enjoy the first three . . . . They're not well written (when compared, for instance, to Ondaatje's, Pamuk's, or Marilynne Robinson's works) and they're not nearly as good as Tolken's novels. Reviewers go on and on about how 'philosophical' Herbert's novels are. So as a philosophy student I should love them. But I don't. Maybe they have too much dialogue (blah). Maybe they focus too much on what the emperors/rulers/gods are doing and don't spend enough time on the normal, everyday person. (What's happening on the less privileged planets??)But I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy God Emperor of Dune. Maybe it's because I now know what to expect from Frank Herbert. Maybe . . . . But, unlike most reviewers, I am looking forward to reading Brian Herbert's works. Most reviewers of Brian's novels say he's not as good a writer as his father. But I don't think Frank is an especially good writer. SO TAKE THAT BH HATERS!!

Bob R Bogle

Having finished writing the third book of the trilogy, Children of Dune (first published in Analog, January-April 1976), Frank Herbert did not intend to revisit that imaginary universe. He had said all he wished to say about Paul Atreides and his legacy, and about the spice, and sandworms, and the Bene Gesserit, and the like. He would move on to other matters.And so he did. The Dosadi Experiment followed hard on the heels of Children of Dune, first published in the summer of 1977. This was succeeded by a screenplay for a Dune movie in 1978, and complicated legal wrangling involving the writing and rewriting of The Jesus Incident, which was published in 1979. Competing negotiations for a film version of Soul Catcher preoccupied Herbert during the summer of 1980. During this period he also coauthored a now almost unreadable book about new technology just beginning to arrive on the scene, 1980's Without Me You're Nothing: The Essential Guide to Home Computers.As early as 1977, however, Herbert had admitted that he felt pressure to continue the Dune series, although he was uncommitted to doing so. He said then: "The thing that attracts me is, say, coming back to the character of Leto 3,400 years later . . ."When Herbert did decide to return to the Duniverse, he felt free of any constraints so far as the plot was concerned. So long as he remained within the general boundaries established in the original trilogy, he was free to write about absolutely anything he desired. He must have felt very liberated, knowing he had a guaranteed audience and to be able to start fresh. He wrote the fourth book in the series between March 1979 and July 1980. Published in May 1981, God Emperor of Dune is Frank Herbert's magnum opus.Dune Messiah reads like a convoluted Shakespearian tragedy, but God Emperor of Dune bumps it up a couple orders of magnitude: here we find not excessively Byzantine plot convolutions, but rather a graceful and elegant prose found nowhere else in Herbert's writing. Herbert had begun to consciously try to meld literary and science fiction in Children of Dune, and that experimentation reaches its apex in this novel. God Emperor of Dune is the most literary science fiction novel I've ever read. This is precisely the kind of writing that I wish all science fiction authors would try to meet or exceed.In Children of Dune the character Leto II had unambiguously declared that the choice for humanity was one of extinction or his Golden Path: some dangerous something was embedded in the human psyche that needed to be corrected. In writing this novel, Herbert asked himself one question: If I had thousands of years at my disposal, how would I fix humanity?Within that question lies the character of Leto II, and the character of Leto II provokes all of the action of the story.I'll give away none of the plot here, but in order to appreciate the tragedy that is God Emperor of Dune it's important to consider the quality of the main character, Leto II.In the earlier Dune books, the primary superheroic gift of Paul Atreides was an ability to foresee many different possible futures. The ability of Alia, and of the Bene Gesserit, was to assimilate the life-experiences of their past ancestors. In Leto II Herbert has merged these gifts. The God Emperor has extraordinary access to all spacetime, past and future: he is the real Kwisatz Haderach. Furthermore, enveloped as he is in a skin that is not his own, he has become virtually indestructible and immortal. He may not have the power of physical creation at his fingertips, but for all practical purposes Herbert has created in Leto II what may be at once the strangest and the most believable god-figure in literature.Leto II contains and can access the full-life experiences of all his ancestors, back to the dawn of human consciousness. So how many personages are rattling around within the psyche of the God Emperor? Counting n generations backwards in time, each of us has 2*2^n ancestors, which means after only n = 19 (i.e., 19 generations back), we each have more than a million ancestors. As Herbert elsewhere (i.e., in Destination: Void) posits human consciousness originated 16,000 years ago, a bit of math suggests that Leto II has direct access to approximately 3.0 x 10^371 fully integrated ancestral lifetime memory-records! Add to that his prescient abilities, and this character is suddenly discovered to be the Alexandrian library incarnate multiplied to an unprecedented degree. His experience of humanity is legion. Nowhere else in fiction, to my knowledge, has the portrayal of a character even remotely like this one been attempted. Given this understanding, Leto's unique perspective on the human condition becomes a bit more comprehensible. 3,500 years to such a creature can seem little more than the blink of an eye. He can scarcely be concerned with the individual: it is only survival of the species that matters to him. This makes him the ultimate alien, the enigmatic sphinx whose utterances may be heard and recorded but must be interpreted within the context of millennia.God Emperor of Dune presents us with Herbert's most careful, most thoughtful, most philosophical, most profound writing of his life, and the prose of its telling is exquisite. Every page is alive and electric, jolting with new insights. To have made the prolonged journey with Herbert over the long years and to arrive at this point with him is a kind of privilege. For more than any other character he created, Leto II is inseparable from Frank Herbert. If nowhere else, Herbert will live forever in God Emperor of Dune.

Armchairedux

Is it philosophical? Well if repeating the same point over and over again is philosophy, then this is about as philosophical as it gets. I'm going to reveal what it's all about, ready? Stagnation is bad. If you enforce stagnation for long enough people will get sick of it. So in order that there will be less stagnation in the future there has to be a lot of it now.That's it. That's the whole book in a nutshell.Leto drags out this same (dubious) argument at every opportunity, which is every couple of pages, because he has designed the empire around this idea. Did I mention that it gets repetitive? One positive thing I will say about the book is that the God Emperor shows us what sacrifices ideological commitment can demand of us. That and some of the characters was what kept me reading this book long after I got the point.

John Shumway

*Same review for the Dune Universe*GREAT books! VERY time consuming! Worth the time!Ok here is the deal. If your not sure about starting a series this big, here is what I would do.1. -- Read the 1st one by Frank Herbert "Dune" if you like it...2. -- Read the "Legends Of Dune" series. Its 3 books written by Frank's son Brian and a author I really like by the name of Keven J. Anderson. Its a prequel that is so far in the past that it doesn't spoil the Original Dune series in any way, and you could stop after that series and be done with Dune.. but if your not done....3. -- Go and read the "Prelude To Dune" series its also 3 books and is a prequel to the original dune series but just prior so you will learn about some of the characters in the 1st book you read "Dune". 4. -- By now you have committed enough time in the series that you probably NEED to finish it. Go back and re-read Dune, (trust me you will want to) then go on and read the rest of the original Dune series (Dune Messiah, Children of Dune, God Emperor of Dune, Heretics of Dune, Chapterhouse Dune) Your devotion to the series will help push you through some of the parts that I think are slightly. Its worth it though!4. -- You will notice the series ends up in the AIR! Frank Herbert died before finishing the series. The authors of the prequel series (his son Bryan Herbert and Keven J. Anderson) finished the series from compiled notes from Frank, Brian's experience talking to his father about the series and both Brian and Kevin's love of the Dune universe. It is very well done. Its two books (Hunters of Dune, and Sandworms of Dune.)OK so sum up here is the order I would do the series. (which ends up being chronological except for the 1st book, even though it wasn't published this way.Dune (to make sure you like it.)Legends of Dune (series of 3 books)Prelude to Dune (series of 3 books)Dune (again since your restarting the original series)The rest of the Dune seriesHunters of DuneSandworms of DuneOk have fun.

Scott Taylor

** spoiler alert ** Just the usual everyday story of man becomes worm, worm rules world, worm meets girl, worm gets betrayed by girl's secret lover. Been there done that! Ok not really, but this is my third reading of the book. It does hold up. The various conversations between the God-Emperor and his subjects were entertaining, as were the excerpts from his 'Stolen Journals.' The path you see the characters tread, as they slowly turn on their master and his tightly controlled world was well mapped. Leto's struggle with his one great weakness, love, was touching. Let me expound on that for a second. Love. Though this book dwells on philosophies and ruling bodies, it has a profound thing to say about the human condition. No matter what we become, how we may develop as a culture or how circumstances around us change, there is always love. Always emotions to cloud our thinking, fire our thoughts and interfere with our best laid plans. This is a central message of Leto and his 'Golden Path' and for that I thank Herbert. Just the same. This time through I found my self wishing that Herbert had more fully fleshed out the world rather than being so narrowly focused on the Ruling Citadel in Arrakis. We could have used more political conspiracy from the earlier Dune books, and a little less Leto pontification. I am reminded of the strength of few words spoken profoundly over the weakness of a rambling diatribe where meaning is lost in a stream of consciousness. The book is not a diatribe, but at times it feels a bit heavy-handed in focus.All that being said, its a book worth reading if you liked the other ones in the series. I 'read' the BBC audiobook version which was narrated, like the others, by Simon Vance and Scott Brick. Excellent work there, and filled with nuances in the reading that convey so much more than mere words can do.Thanks for reading.

Justin

Painful and unrewarding. Listen: if you read Dune 1-3 and want to hop into the maelstrom of Dune 5, let me just tell you what happens in God Emperor. Just give me a call and I'll sketch it out. It'll take 2 minutes and you'll thank me later. Or, hey, be crazy and read it like I did.I'm pretty sure Brian Herbert wrote it and Frank knows it sucks. In Dune 5 and 6 the characters continually refer to the period in human future history covered by this book as "[number redacted due to spoiler:] years of boredom." I am not making that up.

Dave Johnson

when i first read this, i really didnt understand what Herbert said. this was such a departure from his first three books that i thought it was awful. in fact, at the time, i told a friend that i didnt like where Dune was going and that i was going to quit the series after this book. long story short, i didnt quit. and, although i didnt like the book at the time, i reread this book back in '06 and i really liked it. i guess you have to understand what leto went through for his "Golden Path". he had to turn into something hated and worshiped, and he hated that. but because he knew that humanity would be extinguished without his help, he knew that his job was necessary. what i also found intriguing was how well herbert portrayed someone who knew the future. but it wasnt that he knew everything; he had to search the possible futures. and when he found a person whose future was unsearchable, he was pleasantly surprised.with all his books, herbert made amazing characters. in the end, this was a very good book, but only in the context of the next two books (which were my favorite of the dune series).

Paul Darcy

by Frank Herbert, published in 1981.I rarely need to struggle and push myself through a science fiction novel, but on this one by Frank Herbert I had to do just that.Don’t get me wrong, it’s not as bad as all that, just very dense and philosophical - which to some is probably great reading, but to me it felt like wading through dogma and cleverness and knee-high swampwaters.The main character, Leto II the God Emperor, is unquestionably a unique and interesting character in the history of Science Fiction. He is a genetic cross between a great worm of Dune and a man. The novel deals mainly with this character and how he is leading humanity to survival - at least you think he is, or, like others in the novel, maybe his is just insane and needs to be removed.Thousands of years have passed since Paul Atreides lead the Fremen to take over Dune, and incorporated into the God Emperor are all the Atreides line for the past thousands of years. He sees history through the eyes of hundreds, and knows the Golden Path, the path leading to salvation.A really cool idea, with really cool characters, but again - tedious. It fails partly because of the omniscient narrator which has you jumping from one character’s mind to another from paragraph to paragraph - I must say I hate that kind of writing and maybe that has coloured my view of this book.I won’t give away any details because it is in the details that Herbert excels as a novelist and his world is rich and vast and worth the trip. Just be warned, it could be long and arduous one.Oh, I should mention this is the fourth Dune novel by Herbert and the start of his last trilogy written about Dune.Overall I can see the vast canvas Herbert has painted and it is magnificent. I just can’t decide if this particular novel is a master-piece or a piece of something else.You will need to read if for yourself is you want to know what happens to the God Emperor and his Golden Path - if you care to that is.I am divided on this one - just like the God Emperor himself.

Jlawrence

There is something leaden about this book. Plot-wise, the previous Dune books were driven by crisis brought about by change. God Emperor of Dune centers around stasis - stasis imposed by a tyrant for the supposed good of humankind. Herbert is once again wrestling with some fascinating and complex ideas, but the philosophical pay-off doesn't quite balance the sluggish pace, the almost cartoonish outlandishness of Leto II's physical form, and the tedium of Leto's self-pity and his repeated waxings poetical about his wealth of ancestral memories. Still, if you're into Dune and can withstand the above, worth reading for the odd places Herbert ventures.

Jim

God Emperor of Dune by author Frank Herbert is a religiopolitical novel disguised (poorly) as science fiction. 3,000 years after the events of Children of Dune, the planet Arrakis has undergone many ecological changes. It is becoming wet and green. The people live in tribal-like communities in relative peace by way of being forced to live the traditions of old, and not only on Arrakis, but around most of the galaxy. All because of the God Emperor's 'Golden Path'. Who is the God Emperor, you may ask. Why, He's only the 3,000 year old son of a Messiah, who has morphed into a giant hallucinogenic producing space-wurm with near omniscient abilities about past, present and future and proclaimed himself the God Emperor of the whole freaking universe, is all. And His name is Leto! Leto has a plan. It's a golden plan. He dominates all of space and time because He's smart -- Super Smart. And He does it all for the sake of humanity. But there are people who really don't like Him and want to assassinate His wurmy ass. This presents a problem. One, He's freaking omniscient, idiots! Kinda' hard to kill someone who knows everything in the entire space-time continuum, don't ya' think? Second, if He dies His golden path dies with Him. Damn. Well, that doesn't stop these forward thinking rebels. They're sick and tired of a tyrant telling them to live the old ways and customs of Dune's past. "Only fools want to live in the past." But wait, Leto is going to awaken the human race to a new level of consciousness! Down with the old customs, in with the new!!!!!!!!!!God Emperor of Dune is little more than 98% liberal drivel, 1% vague and blurry conservatism, a touch of bizarre Gnosticism, and 1% story. Although, I should mention that I know of many readers who have an entirely different take on his political messages. Our interpretations of his writing are obviously very subjective. Anyway, the extreme vast majority of this story is told through innumerable boring conversations Leto has with various servants who are standing in his underground chamber while he hovers on a floating cart that gets mentioned about 1,969 times. Then in the last about 20 pages of the book, something happens. I came away with a few conclusions. First, Frank Herbert was on drugs. Second, Frank Herbert decided to share his overly-common political opinions rather than write an interesting story with deep characters and conflict. Third, I want my own hovering cart. I was sadly disappointed with God Emperor because I loved the first three books in this series. I was about to 1-star this sucker until I realized: wait, this book is about a freaking giant Space-Wurm who is the God Emperor of the entire freaking MULTIVERSE. That's worthy of more stars in and of itself.

Melee Farr

I just finished this one and liked it almost as much as the first, which is really saying something. I have to say that Leto disgusted me at first ... gave me the willies just reading about him, kind of like squishing a snail, but by the end of the book, I felt dreadfully sorry for him, and had a reluctant respect for the lonely choices he made. I'd certainly have never made those sacrifices. I have a pile of quotes from the wise Mr. Herbert to add here ....

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