Five Dialogues

ISBN: 0915145235
ISBN 13: 9780915145232
By: Plato G.M. Grube Donald J. Zeyl

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Dameon Manuel

This edition contains five dramatic Dialogues penned by Plato, all of which purportedly reflect accurately the content—and perhaps the words—of real conversations in which Socrates was a part. This particular grouping of Dialogues, as I have learned, is quite standard in both selection and ordering, with the exception of "Meno." "Euthyphro," "Apology," "Crito," and "Phaedo" are chronologically arranged and, together, paint a picture of the Athenian philosopher Socrates at the end of his life. (The editor included "Meno," he explains, because the ideas it presents track closely with those of the following "Phaedo.") My impression of the book as a whole is of a gradual escalation from some thought-provoking but innocuous inquiries into how and why certain aspects of conduct and behavior constitute a virtuous life, into a territory of speculation about the soul, the afterlife, and mortality. It finishes with a lengthy passage concerning the nature of the cosmos, in which Socrates describes the latter as a world of islands floating in the ether, rivers flowing in all directions unbound by beds and banks, and bountiful jewels that outshine the jewels of earth to which we are accustomed. This passage, at times, sounded as though I was rereading Alduous Huxley's The Doors of Perception & Heaven and Hell. "Phaedo" draws to an emotional close, as Socrates willingly submits to execution by poisoning, in the company of his friends and disciples.

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Abdulelah Qutub

good baseline understanding of platonic way of thinking, through the five dialogues.

Khristy

I have a hard time rating the works of Plato...and as for reviewing them, well it would take a lifetime to do so.

Anand

This is is probably one of most essential book for any one who wants to know more about philosophy.I have read most of the dialogues before and every time you read it you get something new, like the bible. Yes, I believe this should be any philosophers bible, the one only guide understanding other philosophy works and a guide to how to do work out your own "the best way to think about things". I say this because when I first read Euthypro I did not understand anything. The second time I read it, I understood in the end Euthypro did not know what piety is even though in the beginning who seem to very confident what it meant. The third time I read it, I began to see how Socrates was being Ironic as to boast Euthypro's knowledge and baiting him into discussion that makes Euthypro foolish. I probably get more out if it if I read it again and again.This was same with Apology. It was my first time reading the Crito, Meno, and Phaedo it was tough read, and again I did not really comprehend much from it. However, I will probably get something new when I read it again.Ultimately, These dialogues shows how great Writer and Philosopher Plato is, and also what a great Philosopher Socrates. Even if most people did not like Socrates during his time, I know he has been loved more by great thinkers after his demise. True Legend.

Zacharygs

It was nice to go back to these after some time away. The Phaedo is longer than I remembered, too; but the ending myth of the cycle of souls is fantastic.

Shalini Patras

Apolocy, Crito and Phaedo by Plato seem more like short booklets. In Apology Socrates defends himself in the court to the public of Athens. In Crito, Socrates dialogues with his friend, Crito about the virtue of going through his execution by drinking poison. The book raises many moral questions─how should a citizen face the death penalty when he or she is not guilty? What should you do when the public chose to unjustly condemn you? It is a superb dialogue on the virtue of obeying the laws of the nation, as its citizen. In Phaedo, Socrates dialogues with his friends who had come to visit him in prison on the day of his execution. The three readings evokes powerful emotions in the reader on morality, virtue, citizenship, and even religious leanings. The three writings of Plato, Apology, Crito, and Phaedo is available free of cost on Amazon.com. I recommend everyone, especially those in leadership, be it parents, CEOs, or teachers to read these writings by Plato. Euthyphro and Meno were not a part of this collection that I got from Amazon.

Robert Sheard

I'm not sure how one "rates" Plato, and by extension, Socrates, but this gave me a headache. I can follow the logical chains in the dialogues, but I'm bothered by the unstated assumptions behind some of them. For example, in Phaedo, there's a long argument/proof explaining how Socrates "knows" that the soul exists separately from the body and that it exists both before the body and after it. He spends an inordinate amount of time proving the before and after existence while never addressing a single word to proving that the "soul" actually exists at all. Maybe it's in another dialogue; I don't know. I also have a problem with the idea that learning isn't really learning at all, but that we already have all of our knowledge before we're born (in the soul?) and then lose it when we're born and then "recollect" it throughout life. Again, if the whole soul assumption falls apart, so does this rather bizarre notion. Sorry, not buying it.

Shiv

i want ot read

Polo

Not much to say about this book. It's a must read.

Siavash

East to read translation. I can see why ppl who choose the lure of inconsistency in their opinions of life would easily read a few pages and put the book down. Socrates can be a pain in the butt most of the times...and that makes the plays all the more brilliant of course. What else could one expect from timeless pieces of writing the characters were resurrected in my head although those who were not Socrates require a third to 10th reading sometimes to completely form. Maybe that's why I couldn't rate it as 5?

Cameron

These dialogues contain the core concepts of Platonic philosophy and serve as a good introduction to the legacy of Socrates and philosophy in the golden age of Greece. I've read these dialogues probably a dozen times in my life and discover something new with each read.

Angie

Apology quotes:"Socrates is guilty of wrongdoing in that he busies himself in studying things in the sky and below the earth; he makes the worse into the stronger argument, and he teaches these same things to others.""Socrates is guilty of corrupting the young and of not believing in the gods in whom the city believes, but in other new spiritual things.""To fear death, gentlemen, is no other than to think oneself wise when one is not, to think one knows what one does not know. No one knows whether death may not be the greatest of all blessings for a man, yet men fear it as if they knew that it is the greatest of evils.""Wealth does not bring about excellence, but excellence makes wealth and everything else good for men, both individually and collectively.""...and what do I deserve to suffer or to pay because I have deliberately not led a quiet life but have neglected what occupies most people..."

John Molina

This is definitely the worst book I can recall reading. It started off not so tedious and just went downhill from there. The book is about Socrates' trial and features some of his philosophies on life and is just the most worthless stuff I have ever read. I had to read this book for a class and maybe that's why I found it so boring, but to be honest that's not the reason. This book is just a waste of time. No stars

Emily Stack

Fascinating. Pushes your brain and really makes you think.

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