The Thistle and the Rose (Tudor Saga, #8)

ISBN: 0609810227
ISBN 13: 9780609810224
By: Jean Plaidy

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I think I would have liked this book better if it had been about a period in history I cared more about or knew less about.Ms. Plaidy's facts seem to all be in order, but the perspective is necessarily narrow (what would a Queen know about the lives of the peasants) and the characters come off as a bit shallow and self-absorbed. (Which, credit where it's due, they may very well have been.)Also, in this book's defense, it's quite far into a series I haven't read the rest of, so it's entirely possible that if I'd started at the beginning I would have been able to build up the sense of depth I was missing.

Carol Mauro

A queen who only found infidelity, The Thistle and the Rose: The Story of Margaret, Princess of England, Queen of Scotland (A Novel of the Tudors) One after another of Queen Margaret 's husbands were unfaithful. She was clearly moved by passion and made her decisions for marriage based upon lust which she mistook for love. As I read the book I started to think: "not again" but to my dismay, she would fall for her weakness. The clans of Scotland were powerful and deceitful. Margaret was easily swayed. There was little substance to her character or the book.

Rosemarie Short

It is worth starting this by saying I am a huge fan of Jean Plaidy. For her time she was a fabulous figure, writing despite not obtaining a full education, dedicating her life to transforming solid books of heavily compacted history into novels with enough breathing room to garner interest; without being fluffy, as historical fiction these days has a tendency of being. However despite this I found The Thistle and the Rose to be much lighter, more empty, than previous instalments. This isn't to say I didn't enjoy this novel. There are times, particularly when the Scottish uprisings are taking place and political turmoil is rife throughout the land, that this is a gripping read. However I felt the weakening of Margaret Tudor's character, by putting her keen political mind in second place to her obsession with men, a little off putting. For all I know Plaidy may have found compelling evidence to that being true, in which case I would bow to her superior knowledge. However I cannot help but compare this to her Eleanor of Acquitaine instalments, a woman who also had many lovers, but was written as strong, powerful and shrewd.That being said I sympathised with Margaret's plight, consistently betrayed by the men in her life, often both her and her children playing the roles of political pawns, an unfortunate product of the times. All the characters were well written, with the years where Margaret courted Albany in an almost combative, obsessional romance especially interesting to me. Yet I yearned for more and will look forward to returning to her other novels, hoping to find it.

Peggie Ross

Another step along my personal journey to read as many of the Jean Plaidy books as possible. Currently I am working on the Tudors. I adore these novels because I always learn many things about the lives of the characters. They are well written and rapid reads despite what sometimes are very long books.


Thoroughly engrossing; a rip in the fabric of time allowing a glimpse into the past, and providing a true human nature to such legendary historical figures.


Confession--I'm slowly becoming obsessed with British history, specifically the Tudor/King Henry VIII era, mainly because I've started watching "The Tudors." I began watching it because Jonathan Rhys Meyers is beautiful, but then enjoyed the show due to it's actual content. Soooo, I'm now reading books on this era.I loved this book and have heard that the other books by her are just as great. A lot of historical facts, but a great, heart-wrenching story. I felt Magaret Tudor's pain the whole time! She's a character I hated and loved. I think I even cried a little.


Poor Margaret Tudor didn't have an easy time of it, especially in matters of love. It's a shame that the most powerful women of this time still had such little control over their own fates. That said though, like a proper Tudor, Margaret pushed the boundaries wherever she could get away with it and then some... the end result of some of those choices does nothing to diminish her bravery in making them. I enjoyed this version of her story very much!


Plaidy has written the character of Margaret as a vapid and somewhat maddening woman, ruled by her desires. She doesn't seem to acknowledge the link between her impulsive behaviour and the undesirable circumstances she continuously finds herself in. But, overall it was a great rendition, and I have no complaints.


The Tudors... they were quite the interesting bunch. There are better historical novels about them, such as Rosalind Miles' "I, Elizabeth." But this one is pretty interesting.


Interesting in that I knew nothing about Margaret Tudor before I read this book. Disappointing in that she is portrayed as a somewhat hysterical, oversexed character. But hey, I wasn’t there; maybe she was all that :). I’d call this one historical fiction- lite.


This novel tells the story of Margaret Tudor, daughter of King Henry VII of England, and sister to King Henry VIII. As a teenager she married King James IV of Scotland in an effort to bring peace between England and Scotland. The rose and the thistle of the novel’s title.Jean Plaidy has written plenty of historical fiction books. This is the 8th in the Tudor series alone. But it is the first one I’ve ever read by her. And I’d have to say I’m not really all that impressed. Full review:


OK. I like that it does not go into explicit details behind closed doors. For Historical FIction this is somewhat hard to find. It is the polotics, religion and marriage of those times that fastenate me, not the made-up love scenerios.


This is a historical novel about King Henry VIII's older sister Margaret who is married off to Scotland. I'd read about Mary, the younger one, before, so i was interested to read more about this sister. This they were just so messed up! There's so many books, movies and shows about them just because if they existed now, they'd be the hit reality show. The spoiled, self-indulgent rich kids living off their daddy's money, who think that no rules apply to them. Margaret seemed even more like her brother than mary did, she did pretty much the same things with the same motivation, only she happened to be female. still, i'm surprised she got away with as much as she did. I feel like maybe this book was dramatacized a bit more than it should have been, writing only ok, but it was entertaining, i liked it.


UGH this was boring... i quit reading halfway through. maybe i'll pick it up again someday.

Mary Lilly

Love this series of the Tudors!Love this series of the Tudors!I have always loved Jean Plaidy's books. I'm making my way through all of them on my kindle...this time I know they won't get sold at a garage sale, and I get to rediscover them all over again!

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